brian-k said: With the passing of Maya Angelou, be on the look out for some especially ham fisted cartoons.
A black person has died, racism is over!
(Any bets that one will happen?)
Because we don’t hear about mass stabbings every other month.
A ‘no shit, Sherlock’ cartoon.
Fox News provides nothing of value or interest.
A good cartoon.
The actual message of The Tortoise and the Hare is that people with innate talent and a clear advantage should not celebrate before they’ve won. But that never gets said because, for whatever reason(s), stories like that always want to cast David as the hero. Probably because of his underdog status; we want to root for the underdog because they’re the underdog.
Love, don't trust -
Christianity’s historical record on gay rights is not why I stopped calling myself a Christian nor why I have ultimately started calling myself an atheist, but it (specifically the circle jerk of Christians condemning Fred Phelps while contorting themselves into knots to argue the Bible is not…
You. Don’t. Fucking. Get it. Do you?
It’s not that you NEED a god to accept everybody. It’s that IF GOD SAYS you accept everybody - because God does - then there’s no arguing with God, now, is there?
Let’s take Christ out of the picture. According to you, you learned to accept all people (except, well, your acceptance is limited, but let’s pretend you’re living up to that idea). Who taught you that? Where did you learn that? Your dad? Your mom? Dr. King? Gandhi? Fred Rogers?
However you learned it, by your definition, you met the godhead in that person. You don’t need Christ. YOU DO NEED THE GODHEAD.
Does THAT make sense? Or are you just so adamantly blind?
1) No, I don’t accept everyone and I never said I do. Love is not acceptance is not tolerance; understand the different terms here.
2) Define your terms. ‘Godhead’? What is that? What does it mean? Is it a being? Is it a feeling? Can you prove its existence, or do you define it so vaguely that anyone would agree that something you identify as ‘the godhead’ exists? For that matter can you prove God’s existence, or is ‘the godhead’ your vague definition of God as some feeling people having connecting us with the universe or whatever? I can only guess here because you introduced the esoteric idea without explaining what it means.
And I wasn’t talking about ‘the godhead,’ I was talking about God. The Judeo-Christian deity, Yahweh. Don’t waste my time with righteous anger when you’re sidestepping what I talked about to introduce your own undefined terms and to reframe the discussion as if I’m being so unreasonable as to intentionally refuse to understand your own personal view prior to any discussion.
3) When did God say we’re supposed to accept everyone? When he was flooding the Earth? When Jesus was rebuking the Pharisees? When he was telling his followers to leave their families?
4) You never answered my question. What need is there for God? If humanity can grow to the point that we can show love and acceptance without relying on any deity’s instructions (and we’re getting there; the progress made towards gender, racial and now sexual orientation equality has happened despite the influence of religion), then why do we need that deity? It doesn’t matter if God said ‘Be nice to everyone’ (which they didn’t and which they don’t adhere to). Humanity is able to achieve that without God, without religion. Why fight for something useless?
My entire point is that Clark, you, and others are trying to argue that God has always instructed what is currently the general view of morality and tolerance, which is so clearly not the case and which is post facto justification for Iron Age mythology that our society is outgrowing.
Thanks for wasting my time, though. ‘The godhead.’ Whatever that means.
Christianity’s historical record on gay rights is not why I stopped calling myself a Christian nor why I have ultimately started calling myself an atheist, but it (specifically the circle jerk of Christians condemning Fred Phelps while contorting themselves into knots to argue the Bible is not anti-gay) was a deciding factor for me.
So I’ve spent many hours of late considering why people like Fred Clark feel the need to fight so strongly for a gay-friendly brand of Christianity. The obvious answer would be “They believe God exists and will punish those who don’t believe or do the right thing, and in an increasingly tolerant secular society Christianity needs to change its stance to remain viable and continue to bring in/retain followers.”
Except the progressive Christians like Clark are the ones quickest to say “Hell’s not real” or “Hell’s only for the worst of the worst,” playing down the threat of a punitive afterlife.
So why is belief in God necessary? If Clark et al are correct, if actions are the important thing and the whole point of the Bible and Jesus’ teachings is just to tell us to be nice to one another, what need is there for Christianity?
Clark has said (and I wish I could recall the post I’m thinking of) Jesus is love and he calls himself a Christian because he believes in love, or something to that effect.
But why invoke Jesus? Why is it necessary to call upon any specific deity or mythology to encourage people to love one another or to give weight to the idea of helping the poor and downtrodden? When does God become necessary in this philosophy?
I think it’s because the religious don’t trust people. They don’t trust people to behave morally without the incentive or threat of punishment religion offers. It’s seen in any theist’s argument of ‘Without God people would be raping and killing one another.’
How is this not seen as a crutch for humanity? To say that we need to call upon a higher authority in order to do the right thing, and to fight for this belief even while acknowledging (if not admitting) that society is moving towards a more enlightened and accepting state that religion can only tag along behind.
Where are all these wounded veterans coming from? Wars started by Bush.
A good cartoon.
His restaurant was robbed at gun point, and he was shot in the arm…
b y this logic the rich dont get shot at enough
How much does Randy Bish make for this, and how often does he get shot on the job?i asked him via facebook, we’ll see if he responds. but i’m guessing “too much” and “not enough”
Wait. Why are we bothering the cartoonist whom is MAKING THE POINT THAT YOU’RE UPSET ABOUT? Vets don’t get anything for their sacrifices. Instead of bothering someone who is for your cause, go do something about it.
He is against raising the minimum wage, he is not for our cause. Did you miss that? The entire point is he’s arguing only people who get shot at on the job deserve a living wage.
I’m really curious how that Randy Bish ‘wounded vet and fast food worker’ cartoon got 4,000 notes.
Mother shakes her head in disgust, silently lamenting the fact her son is destined to become a hack editorial cartoonist.
She should have seen it coming after all those times she had to clean off ‘Debt’ written in crayon on the walls.